tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1091340695525848190.post479669030178949118..comments2023-10-11T04:59:14.482-04:00Comments on Wide Asleep in America: The Invisible Dead and "The Last Word":Lawrence O'Donnell 'Rewrites' the Occupation of AfghanistanUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1091340695525848190.post-43570024178418169432011-08-20T16:46:52.230-04:002011-08-20T16:46:52.230-04:00Thanks for the kind words, Mike.
Honestly, I don&...Thanks for the kind words, Mike.<br /><br />Honestly, I don't at all mind if commenters like "Anonymous" continue to share their views here - issues like these are bound to evoke strong, passionate responses.<br /><br />My problem with Anonymous (beyond his seeming inability to not post anonymously) is that his arguments aren't cogent and his "us vs. them" worldview isNima Shirazihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17204184071613645335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1091340695525848190.post-90249278573975939382011-08-20T14:41:19.856-04:002011-08-20T14:41:19.856-04:00Hey anonymous
You are really annoying me now. Your...Hey anonymous<br />You are really annoying me now. Your points are so childish and it seems like you like to hear yourself talk no matter how foolish it makes you look, <br /><br />I have a simple solution for you. There are those of us that really enjoy reading Nima's comments, but if you are not one of us, simply go somewhere else. Don't try to muddy the water with your b.s.Mikenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1091340695525848190.post-21980306751566828342011-08-19T23:33:11.331-04:002011-08-19T23:33:11.331-04:00I guess that it just wsn't nice of O'Donne...I guess that it just wsn't nice of O'Donnell to limit the discussion of war deaths to those of Americans.<br /><br />So unmannerly.<br /><br />Other than that, knock yourself out having a good old time misinterpreting by pretending he meant more than that if you need the spurious moral superiority fix.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1091340695525848190.post-73691526869593289262011-08-19T13:24:36.085-04:002011-08-19T13:24:36.085-04:00I'm so proud of you nima. Your words are so tr...I'm so proud of you nima. Your words are so true and so what I would write , if I could write as eloquently as you do. God bless and please continue to tell truth to power.mikenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1091340695525848190.post-44547318342232992802011-08-17T23:11:55.858-04:002011-08-17T23:11:55.858-04:00I could give a damn about what O'donnell think...I could give a damn about what O'donnell thinks or says. Just so you know i was linked to your article by hallindsey.com just so you have a slight perspective of my view of life.<br /><br />Did i call them backward savages?? They survive where most americans couldnt last a week. STOP PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH! (Uh oh capitilized letters O.o i must be serious) my problem is there isnt a Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1091340695525848190.post-62192668878378102732011-08-17T11:15:19.707-04:002011-08-17T11:15:19.707-04:00This is getting very silly and pathetic.
Anonymou...This is getting very silly and pathetic.<br /><br />Anonymous, no one ever said it's "ok" for the Taliban to kill people. To state as such is to both misread what I and others have written and erect a strawman which you can then knock down as proof of your own humanity and compassion.<br /><br />This won't work, because what you've written doesn't hold up to any scrutinyNima Shirazihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17204184071613645335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1091340695525848190.post-91914131102780614212011-08-17T02:47:10.877-04:002011-08-17T02:47:10.877-04:00http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2088...http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2088979,00.html <br /><br />So its ok for the taliban to kill civilian afghans because their not a technologically advanced nation?? Excuse me sir but a bomb planted in a marketplace is just as deadly as a bomb dropped from a plane. I make excuses for neither side, but i can tell the differance between dropping a bomb from 30,000ft and personally Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1091340695525848190.post-90851508511512785602011-08-16T02:40:57.999-04:002011-08-16T02:40:57.999-04:00I love how some commenters here employ the, "...I love how some commenters here employ the, "hey, what about the Taliban?!" line to excuse U.S. war crimes.<br /><br />If the Taliban's human rights record is the benchmark against which you judge your own military's actions, so be it. Personally, I tend to have a somewhat higher standard when atrocities are committed halfway around the world in my name by heavily-armed, Nima Shirazihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17204184071613645335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1091340695525848190.post-28811051946343939302011-08-16T01:40:02.096-04:002011-08-16T01:40:02.096-04:00Before you guys point fingers and bleed your heart...Before you guys point fingers and bleed your hearts out, take a minute and think about all those innocent afghans that died at the hands of the taliban, insurgent forces.<br /> Civilians are killed in every war. You live in a differant world if you dont think thousands of people wont be killed by the taliban if/when the US pulls out. Look at what happened in vietnam for goodness sakes. Loss of Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1091340695525848190.post-44660015696924576612011-08-16T00:33:32.255-04:002011-08-16T00:33:32.255-04:00@Hidden Author/Franklin/Linkin Park Superfan -
Y...@Hidden Author/<a href="http://franklinstestpage.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Franklin/Linkin Park Superfan</a> - <br /><br />Yet again you conflate "the Taliban" and "al Qaeda" with Afghan civilians and then blame those civilians for their own deaths when the U.S. and NATO airplanes, drones, and soldiers murder them. Shameful.<br /><br />According to your warped sensibilityNima Shirazihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17204184071613645335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1091340695525848190.post-21290158708402109142011-08-15T23:18:56.927-04:002011-08-15T23:18:56.927-04:00You mean the Nuremberg Principles that say that a ...You mean the Nuremberg Principles that say that a war of aggression is the supreme war crime because it enables all others? Well al-Qaeda is the culprit there and the Taliban by agreeing to be co-belligerents are also guilty of "the supreme war crime". Why did you leave out that fact?<br /><br />Or the Geneva Conventions that granted protections to <b>uniformed</b> combatants while Hidden Authorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05039410618383593927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1091340695525848190.post-64449793833717601832011-08-15T20:15:48.643-04:002011-08-15T20:15:48.643-04:00@Hidden Author -
I've refrained from jumping...@Hidden Author - <br /><br />I've refrained from jumping in until now, but your comments are so seriously demented and devoid of fact that I feel the need to interject.<br /><br />Every sentence you write demonstrates your severe lack of comprehension of what "justice" and "law" actually are. You seem to think them synonymous with "vengeance" and "Nima Shirazihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17204184071613645335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1091340695525848190.post-70620686460305436422011-08-15T18:10:49.746-04:002011-08-15T18:10:49.746-04:00BTW, I actually think America should leave Afghani...BTW, I actually think America should leave Afghanistan. If America goes through the farce of treating Osama bin Laden's Pakistani protectors as partners because America is too afraid to confront Pakistan, then America's unwillingness to see the war through makes the war itself futile. But in determining policies for immigration, foreign aid, etc., leaders in American government should Hidden Authorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05039410618383593927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1091340695525848190.post-46149265607682087782011-08-15T17:32:58.732-04:002011-08-15T17:32:58.732-04:00for spanner:
1: Of the 17 hijackers on 9-11, how ...for spanner:<br /><br />1: Of the 17 hijackers on 9-11, how many were Afghans?<br /><br />There were 19 hijackers not 17. Obviously you only pay attention to whatever suites you.<br /><br />The real question is: How can America allow its enemies to coordinate attacks and shelter operatives using other countries in light of 9-11?<br /><br />2: When, a year later, the FBI published its ''25Hidden Authorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05039410618383593927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1091340695525848190.post-58269263082077435692011-08-15T16:32:14.247-04:002011-08-15T16:32:14.247-04:00Maybe you could take the time in your next article...Maybe you could take the time in your next article to enumerate the atrocities visited upon the Afghan people by their own people(known as the Taliban).redroksaznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1091340695525848190.post-1552549339973841992011-08-14T16:51:47.511-04:002011-08-14T16:51:47.511-04:00A great article and some very fine comments. Howe...A great article and some very fine comments. However...<br /><br />Thorfinnsson said:<br /><br /> "Those of us who are not of a "progressive" persuasion nor connected to the people in question simply do not care."<br /><br />This is standard "progressive" nonsense: that only progressives care. They care for whoever is unsuccessful and despise whoever is Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1091340695525848190.post-68626599904423566252011-08-14T15:35:38.035-04:002011-08-14T15:35:38.035-04:00for Hidden Author: for those who still support t...for Hidden Author: for those who still support the US invasion of Afghanistan, here are four questions:<br /><br />1: Of the 17 hijackers on 9-11, how many were Afghans?<br /><br />2: When, a year later, the FBI published its ''25 Most Wanted'' list of those reponsible for the 9-11 attacks, how many on that list were Afghans?<br /><br />3: When the American government Spanner48https://www.blogger.com/profile/12704039151035574517noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1091340695525848190.post-70342677123819837672011-08-14T15:27:19.436-04:002011-08-14T15:27:19.436-04:00Nima Shirazi… you deserve a medal for this article...Nima Shirazi… you deserve a medal for this article. It is award-winning journalism, which – in reality – will NEVER be recognised by the Establishment Media.<br /><br />How sad…<br /><br />What a terrible world the tyrants are creating for us; a curse on them, and their lackeys.Markhttp://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2011/08/13/rewriting-the-occupation-of-afghanistan/#comment-43203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1091340695525848190.post-55709025712406548992011-08-14T11:39:34.278-04:002011-08-14T11:39:34.278-04:00Thank you for this moving critique of American war...Thank you for this moving critique of American war propaganda and for honouring the men, women and children killed by the US and allies in Afghanistan. We must never forget them. I have shared your well documented piece and will keep it for reference.Rose-Marie Larssonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15879787094722598965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1091340695525848190.post-68132450536519731332011-08-14T07:40:51.057-04:002011-08-14T07:40:51.057-04:00murderers recruited by a misnamed "defense&qu...murderers recruited by a misnamed "defense" department are no heroes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1091340695525848190.post-10521562431539103142011-08-14T05:05:57.497-04:002011-08-14T05:05:57.497-04:00I have shared this article on Fakebook, and I'...I have shared this article on Fakebook, and I'd like to record my personal appreciation for writing this. I would be honoured to read your other material.Bill the Butcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08436195659154078021noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1091340695525848190.post-14333359932995193522011-08-13T18:23:09.653-04:002011-08-13T18:23:09.653-04:00YOU are the one who inverts the distinction betwee...YOU are the one who inverts the distinction between aggressor and victim! What if someone threatened to kill your loved ones unless you endorsed the War on Terror? Well then, the American government was equally coerced into fighting in Afghanistan by the barbaric attack on 9-11! Just as the families of murder victims are COMPELLED BY LOVE AND/OR DUTY to seek justice for their loved ones, the sameHidden Authorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05039410618383593927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1091340695525848190.post-37627178360175663332011-08-13T17:33:24.818-04:002011-08-13T17:33:24.818-04:00Hey Thor,
Empathy isn't an "ism". ...Hey Thor,<br /><br />Empathy isn't an "ism". Minimal levels of it are somewhat expected of humans.Chris Dowdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09506819384867696967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1091340695525848190.post-30241154603004646772011-08-13T16:59:32.310-04:002011-08-13T16:59:32.310-04:00My eyebrow is no longer raised by the 1984-ish pae...My eyebrow is no longer raised by the 1984-ish paeans to the "troops" when things like this happen or the total abscene of any concern or empathy for the civilian victims of the US military in their own countries.<br /><br />The only thing that did raise my eyebrow- that was different this time- was the reference to these killed armed combat troops in Afghanistan as "victims" Chris Dowdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09506819384867696967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1091340695525848190.post-59288733094812007142011-08-13T13:45:51.158-04:002011-08-13T13:45:51.158-04:00Don't be ridiculous, AVANCE. Cenk Uygur is a ...Don't be ridiculous, AVANCE. Cenk Uygur is a Moslem born in Turkey, and while he moved to America at age eight he was still raised by his Moslem Turkish parents. Therefore he has more of a link to the Moslems harmed by America's wars than a white American.<br /><br />Do you really think anything has changed? Have you not studied history? People identify with their perceived social Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com